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Recruiters – The Debate

By TB

Most people heading to Korea for the first time use recruiters. I used one, and it worked out fine (so far). However, the jury is still out on whether you need a recruiter and if they are helpful (see the “Teaching at public schools” section below). Let’s use a Q&A format to look at whether you need a recruiter or not.

1) Do I need to use a recruiter?

Essentially, no. A lot of people arrange work without using recruiters, and come out just fine. Others get screwed over like there’s no tomorrow. My personal opinion is that when you go to Korea for the first time, use a recruiter. They will help you through the application and visa processes. It is always nice to have someone to ask when you are not sure about something. The people on the forums are not always helpful.

2) Do I need to pay a recruiter?

NO! The schools in South Korea PAY the recruiters to find teachers for them. This is something like US$1,000 for each teacher. So if you pay a recruiter, they get money from both sides.

Recruiters in Korea DO NOT charge a fee to find you a job. There are a number of South African recruiters that do charge a fee. Their argument is that they look out for your interests instead of the schools’. However, the amount that they charge is (in my opinion) excessive. One recruiter asks for half of your first month’s salary. This is anywhere between R7,500 and R9,000 (other recruiters ask from R1,000 to R3,800). Eish. And I’m not convinced that they don’t also get paid by the schools.

There are pros and cons for both sides. A lot of South Africans have used South African-based recruiters and had great experiences. But personally, I have had a good experience with South Korean recruiters, and it didn’t cost me a cent. It all comes down to the level of support and assistance that you think you will need.

PS: I’d like to offer as balanced a view on this as possible. If you have used an SA recruiter and paid up front, and felt that it was more than worthwhile, please let me know.

3) Where do I find a good recruiter?

Tough one. All I can say is do some research. I found mine by surfing Dave’s ESL Café and reading reviews about recruiters. Then I searched for any comments and complaints about them. I then checked out who they are affiliated with (in my case, some of the major government education departments). Other people work directly through the government education departments (EPIK, GEPIK, SMOE) for jobs (if you want to teach at public schools -  see below). But remember:

i) If the recruiter has only an email address and no website, be wary (ie, if they can only be contacted at XXXXXX@gmail.com, or XXXXXX@hotmail.com).
ii) Recruiters are only as good as their staff. Some people may have an excellent experience with one staff member at a recruiter, while other people may have a terrible experience with another staff member at the same recruiter.
iii) The people who write reviews on the various forums tend to be unhappy (unhappy Americans at that), so take what they say with a pinch of salt.

Also keep an eye on the blacklists. These are not perfect, but if your recruiter is listed, think about using someone else.

Teaching at public schools

By Marie

It is important to note that if you want to teach in a public school in Seoul or Gyeonggi-do (Gyeonggi province), or any other city or province in Korea, you don’t need to use any recruiter, and you certainly don’t need to pay a recruiter. Public schools are the safest option there is in Korea. They won’t cheat you, refuse to pay you or fire you before you get your bonus. Yes, you can have many other problems, like the principal is on a power trip, or there is no one to speak to, or the kids drive you crazy, or the classes are too big etc, but these things recruiters can’t help you with anyway.

So if you want to teach in a public school then just go to the education websites of the area or city and apply directly. It’s that easy and simple. After deciding to hire you they will tell you step by step what you need to do or send to complete your visa and everything else to come to Korea. Otherwise there are many, many recruiters out there who will find you a public school job and help you with everything for free.

Thus don’t pay a recruiter EVER.

Click on the links below for more info:

Korea public school jobs (EPIK)

Seoul public school jobs (SMOE)

Gyeonggi-do public school jobs (Gyeonggi province) (GEPIK)

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  • t-hype // 30 May, 2008 at 8:06 pm | Reply

    Actually, the bit about public schools in Seoul isn’t entirely true.

    If you check out the SMOE website for English teachers: ( http://etis.sen.go.kr ) it specifically states to use one of their preselected recruiters who are listed on the site.

    The positions on the website under “Job Bank” are typically part-time and I have yet to see one that offered housing.

    That said, GEPIK and EPIK do handle their own recruiting so it’d be perfectly appropriate to contact them directly.

  • TB // 1 June, 2008 at 1:49 am | Reply

    Thanks for the clarification, t-hype.

  • clothier // 13 July, 2008 at 10:23 am | Reply

    nice info on your site. thanks. keep it real

  • TB // 15 July, 2008 at 12:36 am | Reply

    Thanks for the positive comments. Much appreciated!

  • Billy in Midrand // 25 July, 2008 at 10:15 pm | Reply

    I can choose between a job at SMOE and GEPIK. Which is better in your opinion?

    I was going to go with Gepik, ’til I read on the ESLcafe that GEPIK doesn’t honour the contract iro sick-leave and on this site it was also mentioned being misled with overtime.

  • TB // 4 August, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Reply

    Hi Billy

    Sorry for the slow reply. I just got back from a trip to China today.

    Choosing between SMOE and GEPIK comes down to what you are looking to get out of your time in Korea. SMOE is good if you want to be in Seoul and enjoy the city life. I’ve also heard that the students are better and speak more English. But the pay isn’t as good, the vacations can be shorter, and you won’t save near as much money.

    GEPIK is good to have a quieter time in Korea. Pay is decent, so is vacation, and depending where you are you can save loads of money. But you can get placed in the bundus with nothing to do, and the students can be really good, or REALLY bad.

    I’m on GEPIK and having an ok time. BUT, GEPIK is not very well organised, and your experience will depend on your school and the principal you get. Here’s an example: my wife and I both work for GEPIK, at schools in the same town. She has no problems with pay, she has a really supportive work environment, and she only teaches one week of summer camp. I, on the other hand, have had problems with pay, have crappy co-teachers, and will be working during most of the summer vacation. Bit of a coin toss, really.

    People who say things like “GEPIK doesn’t honour the contract” aren’t telling the truth. Their SCHOOL doesn’t honour the contract. GEPIK has little influence over individual principals. And unfortunately it is really hard to choose a school, since many haven’t had a foreign teacher before, or the principal has changed, or the previous teacher was a lazy idiot.

    So basically don’t worry too much about the contract when working for SMOE or GEPIK. Odds are you will get what they promise, so rather base your decision on who to work for on where you would like to work.

    Hope that helps!

    TB

  • Patricia // 19 September, 2008 at 3:02 am | Reply

    I thought all Gepik jobs were near Seoul or in Seoul. How rural can Gepik jobs really be? I was under the impression that Epik was the rural area types of jobs.

    Thanks in advance.

  • TB // 20 September, 2008 at 11:57 am | Reply

    Hi Patricia

    The Gepik jobs can get pretty rural. Some people out here are several hours away from Seoul, and I’ve met people who have to teach at several different schools because the schools in their area are so small. Epik schools do tend to be more rural, but Gepik has its fair share of out of the way towns looking for native speakers.

    TB

  • Viwe // 26 October, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Reply

    Thank God I found this page. I dont even know how i got here. I have with me R1000 that I was supposed to deposit to a certain recruiter in Durban, and I am supposed to pay another R5000 before I leave. I got suspicious when I read the indemnity form, you sign before they start(after you’ve paid) and it says their agency is not liable for anything that should happen after you’ve left and your family shouldn’t contact them after you’ve left. So I thought then why am I paying them that much money then?

    Thanks for the info guys. Its really helpful.

  • Lebogang // 23 November, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Reply

    Viwe,are you not talking about OVC.They recruit for Teach Travel Asia,Kevin being the manager.i also am awaiting response from OVC Pretoria,they told me once i get accepted in one of the schools in Korea i will have to pay them R1ooo and thereafter R5000 before leaving the country.dunno whether to trust them.

    please help.has anyone dealt with OVC?

  • Viwe // 26 November, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Reply

    Yes, Lebogang I’m talking about OVC. I dont know if they are crooks or not, but I found that all the promises they made me are for things that the Department of Education there offers. And I just didn’t see why I should sign an indemnity form stipulating that they are not to be held liable for a long list of things that should happen once in Korea, when they tell you that they have someone there (in the form of Kevin) to look after us.
    I also do not know anyone who has dealt with them, but I have decided to do the application on my own.

  • TB // 26 November, 2009 at 6:49 pm | Reply

    Hi guys

    Don’t pay a recruiter! They are ripping you off! Try these recruiters will help you for free:

    http://www.korvia.com/

  • Lebogang // 30 November, 2009 at 8:04 am | Reply

    Hi there

    i decided not to deal with OVC anymore,i already contacted Juno from Korvia and he is great.i did my C.R.C on friday and it will ony be available after 40 days which is Jan.2010.i think you must also do that Viwe,

    good luck

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